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Juliette Culver

I think it comes down to your values and whether you value pedagogy or open source more. Obviously we'd all like both but when you get into grey areas, you are debating your values more than the actual matter in hand much of the time, and changing somebody's values is difficult if not impossible.

I'm definitely in the pedagogy camp when push comes to shove, as I suspect are you, whereas the OSC folk value open source more and are willing to make what we consider too large pedagogy sacrifices for that.

Martin

I think this is absolutely right Juliette - openness means different things to different people. For the web 2.0/cloud community it is different again - more about open data and APIs.

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